We have 2 nice Haïtian sisters in my (wife's) congregation whom we are fairly close to, so for this time I prefer giving them hand to hand money because they have their own channels to forward this money or goods to their relatives and friends who live in Port-au-Prince and have been affected.
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Quick, easy way to get started helping Haiti
by SixofNine in...and it's looking like they're going to need a lot of help.. .
http://blogs.state.gov/index.php/site/entry/disaster_haiti.
for those interesting in helping immediately, simply text "haiti" to "90999" and a donation of $10 will be given automatically to the red cross to help with relief efforts, charged to your cell phone bill.. .
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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aligot ripounsous
(posted previously on the wrong thread)
Welcome Paulapollos,
I read your posts and find them very interesting. As a long time bethelite, you obviously have an excellent insider knowledge of the organisation. Judging from the acute awareness you've reached about power process within this org, I suppose that you haven't gotten it overnight and it matured as you were still at Mill Hill, which must not have been an easy thing for you to live with. You must indeed have experienced a terrible inner stress due to cognitive dissonance.
As for your prediction that the GB will soon claim to be the FDS, I can tell you that I heard this assimilation from the platform at the last district assembly I attended 18 months ago in Paris, plainly laid out by a french heavy bethel member you may know, bro. COUSY. I pointed out this afterward with various JWs, nobody seemed to bother. Tells a lot about how mentally dull JWs have become, as regards their own theology.
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Watchtower sez....Napoleon's generation is still alive today!
by sir82 inbased on their new defintion of a "generation" from the 4/15/2010 wt, that is:.
understand jesus words about this generation?.
he evidently meant that the lives of the anointed.
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aligot ripounsous
Welcome Paulapollos,
I read your posts and find them very interesting. As a long time bethelite, you obviously have an excellent insider knowledge of the organisation. Judging from the acute awareness you've reached about power process within this org, I suppose that you haven't gotten it overnight and it matured as you were still at Mill Hill, which must not have been an easy thing for you to live with. You must indeed have experienced a terrible inner stress due to cognitive dissonance.
As for your prediction that the GB will soon claim to be the FDS, I can tell you that I heard this assimilation from the platform at the last district assembly I attended 18 months ago in Paris, plainly laid out by a french heavy bethel member you may know, bro. COUSY. I pointed out this afterward with various JWs, nobody seemed to bother. Tells a lot about how mentally dull JWs have become, as regards their own theology.
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The Probabilty of there being an Intelligent Designer
by cantleave ini have been thinking a great deal about where i stand at this moment in time in terms of a belief in a creator verses a belief in an evolutionary process.
i think the best way to describe it is an exploratory path.
i look at what is around me and i acknowledge it is remarkable.
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What puzzles me is : does the rejection of an abusive organisation have to entail the rejection of a creator in whom we, having been deceived by the WTS but not being totally stupid, had believed wholeheartedly ?
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Some Conclusions I Have Reached
by AllTimeJeff ini wonder if everyone here who has kept up with me since i left jw's realize why i have been coming on here.
it certainly has been cool to know that some of my experiences and opinions have helped some.
i hope they know that i have been equally helped by others.. i come here primarily for me.
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Many thanks, ATJ, for the most informative input you bring into this board. Thanks to your personal experience you impart a real insider knowledge to us about the functioning of this organisation. You have every right to be bitter but I appreciate your not being hateful , as far as I remember your posts, which sound plain honest.
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Your faces
by goldensky indear all,.
i love it when your avatar is a real picture of you.
i look at it with interest and my heart warms up.
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aligot ripounsous
I've got this impression that there exists a typical American ex-JW man, with this specific look, or is it that many Americans look alike, like...statistics tell ?
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Bloodless Surgery on Infant Sucessful
by purplesofa inhttp://www.pharmabiz.com/article/detnews.asp?articleid=53437§ionid=.
hospitals group, rectifies complex heart deformity of infant.
friday, january 08, 2010 08:00 ist .
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aligot ripounsous
So, Indian surgeons performed this tricky intervention, seems that Bengalore's fame as the Indian High tech capital city is not over rated. Kudos to the team, also for having respected the parents' stand, whatever we may think about the latter.
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Bloodless Surgery on Infant Sucessful
by purplesofa inhttp://www.pharmabiz.com/article/detnews.asp?articleid=53437§ionid=.
hospitals group, rectifies complex heart deformity of infant.
friday, january 08, 2010 08:00 ist .
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aligot ripounsous
For sure, JWs have never cared much about advancement of science but it could well be that they have been instrumental in this progress. There is a saying which goes (happily transported by JWs, granted) that two categories of people refuse transfusions, doctors and JWs. I'm neither one nor( de facto) the other but I wouldn't mind being added to the list.
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why i wept bitterly in front of two elders......
by oompa innot sure if i ever shared this...but have seen several "sharing" threads here lately and it motivated me..... when i met with the co and po about some doubts and an important question....and when i got the co's answer.....i could not speak....i put my head down and just started crying...not sobbing cause i fought it back...finally the only words to come out were..."i am going to have to leave my wife and son"....and they were like wtf?...but in jw lingo of course.
see i knew in that instant...that very moment....that i had been lied to my entire life...and my stack of doubts i had been piling on the shelf and waiting on jehovah were all valid....and i knew i would never fit in again...not even with my wife and son...that i would never be the spiritual head they needed and wanted.....that was almost 4 years ago...man time flies...and yep...now i am separated from my jw wife...and yep...i did not fit in...not even with her...and my son is older now and moved out but we are not close.
btw...i had printed out all 12 places in rev.
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..."i am going to have to leave my wife and son"..
see i knew in that instant...that i would never be the spiritual head they needed and wanted...now i am separated from my jw wife...and my son is older now and moved out but we are not close....
.the name jehovah is NOT EVEN IN the new testament
Oompa, are you sure you are not deceiving yourself ? Did you really HAVE TO leave your family for the sole reason that you would not be their spiritual head , or is it that you just plainly wanted to leave them ? Did you ask yourself whether they wanted you to stay even without this headship thing ? You might have kept closer to your son by now. Can't see the connection with Jehovah's name in the scriptures anyway. I know it is not in the NT and I'm still at home.
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New light: Generation
by 5thGeneration ingot some info from the annual meeting.. unofficially, the 'generation' is now categorized as 2 groups.
the first is 'the 1914 group' and the second is the younger anointed 'contemporaries' who 'actually work for a period of time with those anointed ones'.. the 'generation' is now 'the lifespan of those who actually saw the beginning of the sign and then the lifespan of those who worked with those who saw the beginning of the sign'.. here we go again....
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The 'Generation' is now 'the lifespan of those who actually saw the beginning of the sign and then the lifespan of those who worked with those who saw the beginning of the sign'.
What scriptures do they contort to "prove" this new understanding?
An elder paid me a visit this evening and gave me a clue as to how they are going to find a justification to this new explanation : The gifts which the HS bestowed on the apostles and first disciples , that is Healing, prophesying and speaking in tongues, have been passed by them onto the next generation of disciples and only on those ones. These special gifts came to an end afterwards. Same thing here, go figure...